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Avengers Doomsday Leaked Trailer Discussion Thread #1
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ig we'll have to wait a month for a (hopefully) meaningful first look
altho seeing Chris Evans back is cool
one short teaser per week, 4 teasers total, so 1 month for all of them
hoping the last teaser is good
r/marvelstudios :
I'm not on Twitter or patient enough to sort through the fake trailers to go find the leak.
Now the Phantom Menace trailer, THAT was to support Meet Joe Black and not the other way around.
EDIT: just to be clear, of course some people will go watch Avatar JUST for the teaser, but the strategy isn't centered around them.
EDIT: Apparently the countdown was wrong and it actually does countdown to the film’s release.
I'm glad they're keeping that seemingly in tact but just with Doom instead. Adds more weight to Endgame and, while I get not wanting that movie to be followed up on, is a genuinely natural way of doing a sequel to that movie story-wise if they were to go that direction which it seems they are.
Just have to hope it's executed well cause it could either be good or a misfire.
Such as the worry that it means the newer characters won't matter or that it ruins Endgame's finality but I think it's too early to say: it doesn't have to be one or the other it's just going to be a balancing act that we have seen the Russo's do before at least so i'm willing to wait and see.
As someone who was invested in Phase 4 and Phase 5 it really feels like they're turning their back on us, and it's disgusting. People have spent hours of their free time discussing, putting storylines together, trying to make sense of the mess that were Phase 4 and Phase 5. Now, with Steve Rogers being back and, as rumor has it, being the main character of Avengers : Doomsday, I can already feel that this was all pointless.
It's not even about "is it canon?". Now it's more like "even if it's canon, does it matter if the characters are never gonna show up?".
But let's be real, the writing was on the wall, did anyone expect Moon Knight, The Eternals Echo or Wonder Man (lul) to be main players in The Avengers? Be glad Shang Chi will show up for 5 minutes to do some cool fight scenes.
Trailer 1 - Steve Rodgers
Trailer 2 - Thor
Trailer 3 - Doctor Doom
Trailer 4 - Full movie teaser
Doomsday is basically civil war 2.0 but now Stark is less nuance and less complex character
All the “he’s just a good actor” comments are hilarious no one can be that dumb.
Other than him having the same face… unless they don’t show the face…
And the same voice… unless they have him doing a radically different voice…
Which would beg the question of why cast him…
Thats the logic I’ve seen, it tends to break down at this point and they stop responding lol
People genuinely believe that Marvel planned from the very beginning to have to get rid of the villain they named a movie after, just so they could go and spend millions of dollars casting their beloved franchise face. Instead of just….doing that.
So is making Him an archrival to Cap and Thor, as it's been rumoured, when Reed Richards is right there...
If they go the latter route, that version of Doom will forever be in RDJ's shadow. By then, the MCU's biggest mascot played the character, he was the villain for 2 Avengers movies, and he would have already fought 25+ years' worth of Marvel movie characters on screen. Doom being played by someone else in a First Steps sequel would seem like a punishing demotion by comparison
I swear, giving Feige that CCO promotion in 2019 was a mistake, just threw off all the checks and balances that made the Infinity Saga work out so well and so consistently
Oh my god, what is happening? I have to correct this constantly the last couple years. Is this a zoomer thing?
If we get the new X-Men movie and they’re like “actually Cyclops is an Apocalypse variant!”, I would expect similar outrage.
DON'T GIVE FEIGE ANY MORE IDEAS😭😭😭
The general public hasn’t been sold on the majority of the MCU post Endgame. They’ll instead be sold on the Evans. vs. Downey twist.
The body swap thing only works in the comics because a hand drawn character doesn't have a public persona or celebrity appeal like a flesh&blood Hollywood actor
If they’re plucking Steve from the past, they can do the same for Tony
If it’s just Doom with Tony’s face, I believe it will be from his sorcery so he can manipulate some of Tony’s allies, not that he’s a Stark variant
But who knows??
Him playing Doom is an added bonus since Marvel needs new plans and asses in theaters seats. I half expect his Iron Man to be the one to land the final hit to defeat Doom
Okay but no really, it almost feels like character assassination how Far From Home postmortem establishes that he learned literally nothing ever from previous bad things. Project EDITH is pretty hilariously fucked up. Glasses linking to a satellite that basically is Project Insight (the neo Nazi genocide plan shall I remind you all) perfected. Complete with an AI and a remote control army of drones (so learned nothing from Ultron) that he then entrusts with a naive teenager.
Flash was seconds away from becoming red paste in that bus because said teen accidentally gave said overly eager AI a kill order (iirc no confirmation request, Edith just went for it at a whim). Don't forget that. Because of FFH we can safely say Tony's either low-key evil or the dumbest genius of the MCU.
Now he has the same stakes as Endgame Tony Stark had.
But yeah I have to say I wasn't planning on seeing this in the theatre but now, I'll he there because I love Evan's Cap, no matter.
That said I think all of this could've been done better with Kang instead of Doom.
Sorry but as a casual just seeing him back as Captain America makes my butt instantly in a theater seat.
I’m really excited to see Captain America back and I would be very interested to see if they are going to bring Iron Man back somehow connected to Doom.
The fact they need to turn to the Netflix shows (rumors Punisher is big part of next Spiderman, Daredevil is their best show rn) and two characters they ‘killed off’ is a little embarrassing to me. (ps bring back Mike Colter’s Luke Cage!)
Phase 4 and 5 was really just "all new all different marvel" but even worse
But I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there was a new Iron Man or Steve Rogers movie made with the characters recast in phase 7/8/9 to go alongside the X-Men
Too much groundwork, not enough build up of all these new characters.
They had one or two cool scenes. And that was it. They didn't have an arc. They didn't have THE spotlight.
It'll be the Steve, Doom and Thor show.
Reed and Sue will play important roles storywise (equivalent to Gamora in IW, A LOT of screentime) but won't be prominently featured in the marketing due to their lack of popularity compared to the rest.
You can tell Marvel have completely lost faith in their post-Endgame characters to lead their own Avengers movie.
It just reeks of desperation getting Chris Evans and RDJ back.
Unfortunately I feel such little hype for Doomsday. They REALLY shot themselves in the foot by not locking in and making sure their post-Endgame movies were all bangers. The MCU is losing my passion.
Back as Doom instead of Tony seems more desperate tbh
This makes it feel like they still want to bring Jonathan Majors back at some point, and they're using Doom, F4, X-Men to soften the blow later.
Get ready for true cash grabs and fan service (which honestly is what No Way Home and Deadpool vs Wolverine was).
I'm not saying it will be bad but it's kinda pathetic that they're banking so much on nostalgia when they introduced some good new characters in the last 7 years
If these these rumors swirling around about the movie mainly being around Doom, Thor, and Steve are true—and not be about Doom and Reed—it would be a death sentence for my excitement for the movie.
Just when I thought they’d finally get Doom right on the big screen after getting the FF and Galactus right.
"We fucked up after End Game here's Cap and Iron man please come back"
Lmao. Soft.
I’m really tired of people complaining about things that we have no idea about. We have no clue what the story will be and how the characters will be used. Bringing Steve back does not mean that everyone else will be sidelined to one scene. We already knew Thor was going to be a main character so that changes nothing. Can we please just wait until we actually know what the movie will be before everyone starts shitting all over it?
I swear, if they don’t bring Steve back, everyone complains that the new characters suck and can’t carry a movie and we need the OGs back. If they do bring Steve back, everyone complains that Marvel is desperate and the new characters don’t get a chance. There’s no winning with so many people in these types of threads. I’m starting to believe that a lot of people don’t even enjoy these movies at all, and actively want them to fail.
bro discovered the concept of hate watching
It’s also disrespectful to Sam Wilson, with zero real connectivity to previous phases, just so Marvel can recycle everything they already did (or plan to redo) with Steve. Endgame already damaged his arc for me, and this only makes it worse.
I get it it’s about money and nostalgia sells but it only proves the Multiverse Saga has been an abysmal failure. And people are absolutely allowed to criticize that, especially when there’s a clear pattern of women and non-white characters being sidelined, even in the marketing. Marvel feels like a washed, creatively bankrupt franchise running on fumes.
they already have 20+ cast members. Thor, the FF, Bucky, Sam, Yelena, Shari, are already strong pillars of an ensemble cast + Downey-Doom as a central force. it’s not impossible that they make it work, but I worry the major characters are gonna be reduced to solely plot-movers while the minor characters stay quip-machines
Multiple things can be true at once. Steve can have a very important role while Reed and Doom still have a major, central conflict in the film.
The last time we saw Doom, he was literally kneeling in front of Reed and Sue’s son, Franklin. We still don’t know his motivations or why that moment happened. There are clearly details being held back. To assume Reed is sidelined ignores that setup entirely.
From everything the Russos and Stephen McFeely have said, it sounds like they cracked a story that requires multiple strong leads, not just one. Steve may be one of them, but there’s no reason to believe Reed won’t also be a lead, especially given his direct connection to Doom.
The first person pushing the idea that Doomsday is “Civil War 2” was MyTimeToShineHello, who has a shaky track record and openly engages in rage-bait and engagement farming. She’s been wrong plenty of times.
Daniel RPK has said Steve is a lead alongside RDJ’s Doom, but that still doesn’t mean Reed won’t also be a lead. Especially when leaked concept art reportedly shows God Emperor Doom with what appears to be Sue and Franklin. That image is directly tied to Reed, not Steve.
For that to carry any weight in Secret Wars, those relationships need to be established first. It wasn’t Peggy. It wasn’t Pepper or his child Morgan. That image/setup points back to Reed and Doom.
I don’t buy the idea that the Russos and McFeely would completely abandon the Reed & Doom dynamic. More likely, they found a way to weave that conflict into a larger story that also connects to other characters. Just like with Thanos. He had a deep connection to Gamora, but also a personal rivalry with Tony. Both existed simultaneously.
I also don’t believe the Russos are going to sideline all the newer characters. We need to remember this is a two-movie story.
Infinity War and Endgame split character focus. Some characters were huge in one and smaller in the other. Nebula, for example, had a much bigger role in Endgame. Hawkeye and Ant-Man weren’t even in Infinity War at all.
If someone like Tom Holland’s Spider-Man isn’t in Doomsday, that’s almost certainly by design. He’ll likely have a major role in Secret Wars. Same logic applies to Hulk, Wanda, America Chavez, Ms. Marvel, Kate Bishop, Cassie Lang, and others. Their absence from Doomsday, if it happens, doesn’t mean they’re being ignored.
Steve and Reed can both be focal points now, while other characters step forward later.
As for Sam Wilson, I don’t believe the Russos would ever treat him poorly or sideline him. These are the same filmmakers who wanted Bucky to give Sam the shield in Endgame. I strongly believe they’ll show Steve and Sam leading together, fighting side by side with mutual respect, reinforcing why Steve always believed Sam was the right Captain America.
Again, scoopers shouldn’t completely sway how people feel. Daniel RPK is known to engagement-farm as well. Steve probably does have a big role, but he won’t be the only character with a big role. Reed, Thor, someone from the X-Men, Yelena, and others will absolutely matter.
These early teases are just that, teases. They’re meant to tell casual audiences, “Hey, an Avengers movie is coming, and stevd is back.” Most casual viewers don’t even know RDJ is Doom. People going to see Avatar will lose their minds seeing Cap, because they aren’t in online spoiler bubbles.
When the official Doomsday trailer drops online, it will still explode. It’ll likely even be a different version from what’s attached to Avatar.
At the end of the day, I trust the Russos. That trust won’t change unless Doomsday actually turns out bad. And if it does, then we can seriously question their MCU track record. But until we see the film, this is premature panic.
_-Steve Rogers_
-Disney
-Ozzy Osbourne
\-Soulja Boy